Well argued, both of you (here comes the but, wait for it...), depending on where one stands on our global population situation. A population reductionist is going to argue, with good data at hand, that advocating population growth anywhere, before we get environmental over-shoot under control, isn't helping the larger existential cause (assuming one believes in over-shoot/climate crisis/food insecurity). And also assuming one believes that global population numbers are part of our existential problem. IMO the Dream is gone, and outcomes indicate it was JUST a dream. Time-out, we need new plays that don't depend on more babies to to re-arrange the deck-chairs.
I very much believe in climate crisis but John is ultimately correct on this. Maybe we shouldn’t be aiming for growth but closer to break even. IF we can solve climate crisis then we’ll need people to implement whatever solutions we come up with. Further, we’ve seen that society reacts strongly to high rates of immigration. Whatever policy we have will either have to place immigrants where they won’t be noticed or aren’t a big factor and seem spread evenly, like what Singapore does but writ large. The only other solution labour wise is automation, so robots can come for all our jobs and we’ll have enough labour. Or, you know, Terminator. j/k
More than that though there are bunch of problems to solve, housing, employment, support/community, and they sort of all have to happen simultaneously or you get a chicken/egg problem, pun intended.
Well argued, both of you (here comes the but, wait for it...), depending on where one stands on our global population situation. A population reductionist is going to argue, with good data at hand, that advocating population growth anywhere, before we get environmental over-shoot under control, isn't helping the larger existential cause (assuming one believes in over-shoot/climate crisis/food insecurity). And also assuming one believes that global population numbers are part of our existential problem. IMO the Dream is gone, and outcomes indicate it was JUST a dream. Time-out, we need new plays that don't depend on more babies to to re-arrange the deck-chairs.
I very much believe in climate crisis but John is ultimately correct on this. Maybe we shouldn’t be aiming for growth but closer to break even. IF we can solve climate crisis then we’ll need people to implement whatever solutions we come up with. Further, we’ve seen that society reacts strongly to high rates of immigration. Whatever policy we have will either have to place immigrants where they won’t be noticed or aren’t a big factor and seem spread evenly, like what Singapore does but writ large. The only other solution labour wise is automation, so robots can come for all our jobs and we’ll have enough labour. Or, you know, Terminator. j/k
More than that though there are bunch of problems to solve, housing, employment, support/community, and they sort of all have to happen simultaneously or you get a chicken/egg problem, pun intended.
Very interesting point and reality.
Always enjoy your writing and perspective.